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Ask Flex / The whole 9-5 day

Ask Flex

Is a 9-5 worth it?

It can be. If it leaves you something.

What you see

"$52,000 a year. Benefits. Steady."

"$52,000 a year. 55 real hours a week."

What it really pays

"$25 an hour."

"About $18 an hour, and your evenings."

An example. Run your own numbers in the Real Workday Clock.

Flex's short answer

It can be, if it pays your bills and still leaves you time and energy for your own life. Count the real hours it takes, not the eight on paper, and then decide what to take back.

✱ The video

Rather watch? It's 56 seconds.

✱ Flex's tips

Count what it really costs.

1

Count the real hours

Commute and catch-up included.

2

Find your real hourly pay

Pay divided by the real hours.

3

Name what you'd want back

Time, energy, evenings.

4

Take back what you can first

Before any big decision.

Try this in your own Claude or ChatGPT

My job pays [pay] a year. Counting the commute and catch-up, it takes about [hours] a week. Figure out my real hourly pay, and help me list what I'd want back from this job before I make any big decisions.

Before you paste work stuff into any AI, check what your company allows.
Free tool

The Real Workday Clock

Your 8-hour job, counted from wake-up to home. See what is left for you.

Count my real day
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✱ What people ask
Does anyone work 9-5 anymore?

Lots of people do, and plenty of those jobs run longer than 9 to 5.

Why do I feel like I'm not meant to work a 9-5?

A lot of people want some of the day for their own. Flex has a page on it.

How do I survive a 9 to 5?

Keep your mornings and evenings for yourself, and hand the repeat work to AI. Flex has a page on it.

✱ More from this pile: The whole 9-5 day
From Nikki's blogFlex tells you how. Nikki tells you what it felt like. Read it on Clawd and Me. Read it →

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